Comments on: Is Education The Answer? http://www.marketingtechblog.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/ new media strategies and other marketing gems Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:52:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Douglas Karr http://www.marketingtechblog.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/#comment-97782 Douglas Karr Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:43:35 +0000 http://www.douglaskarr.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/#comment-97782 Just found this, too cool! <object width="425" height="373"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/dGCJ46vyR9o&rel=0&border=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/dGCJ46vyR9o&rel=0&border=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="373"></embed></object> Just found this, too cool!

]]> By: Bill http://www.marketingtechblog.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/#comment-96802 Bill Sun, 06 Apr 2008 06:27:46 +0000 http://www.douglaskarr.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/#comment-96802 Dad, I thought you'd enjoy to see who else had this opinion... "... unfortunate national traditions which are handed on like a hereditary disease from generation to generation through the workings of the educational system." -Einstein, 1931 Dad,

I thought you’d enjoy to see who else had this opinion…

“… unfortunate national traditions which are handed on like a hereditary disease from generation to generation through the workings of the educational system.”

-Einstein, 1931

]]> By: Mike Schinkel http://www.marketingtechblog.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/#comment-92757 Mike Schinkel Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:27:42 +0000 http://www.douglaskarr.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/#comment-92757 I don't think its the parties so much as the people. Especially people who gather in groups and special interests like 501(c)s and "think tanks." It will never change until the people wake up and realize they are being played for pawns. Part of my point was more that the people has such ingrained ideologies that they beg to be manipulated. It's not the party's faults they pander to people's ideologies and pit them against "the others" to gain their power. The parties have just learned how to achieve their goals, to get elected. "Liberal" and "conservative" are some of the current polarizing labels where groups manipulate people by preaching ideologies and demonizing some idealized and easily identified other group that in many cases doesn't exists. These people use fear and divide by religion, race, sex, sexual preference, culture, geography, nationalism. When I was young we had "the cold war" but after that went away I thought we had a new world order that could operate on commerce and live in peace. My god naive I was. I don’t think its the parties so much as the people. Especially people who gather in groups and special interests like 501(c)s and “think tanks.” It will never change until the people wake up and realize they are being played for pawns.

Part of my point was more that the people has such ingrained ideologies that they beg to be manipulated. It’s not the party’s faults they pander to people’s ideologies and pit them against “the others” to gain their power. The parties have just learned how to achieve their goals, to get elected.

“Liberal” and “conservative” are some of the current polarizing labels where groups manipulate people by preaching ideologies and demonizing some idealized and easily identified other group that in many cases doesn’t exists. These people use fear and divide by religion, race, sex, sexual preference, culture, geography, nationalism.

When I was young we had “the cold war” but after that went away I thought we had a new world order that could operate on commerce and live in peace. My god naive I was.

]]> By: Douglas Karr http://www.marketingtechblog.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/#comment-92645 Douglas Karr Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:48:28 +0000 http://www.douglaskarr.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/#comment-92645 Mike - that's an excellent point. I come from a diverse family and we've lived all over the country - but for many, this is the first time that young adults are put into contact with other cultures beyond their neighborhood. I honestly don't hold out much hope either. I think people vote with the 'wind' and don't put any thought into it anymore. The 2 parties have mastered manipulating the lemmings. Mike - that’s an excellent point. I come from a diverse family and we’ve lived all over the country - but for many, this is the first time that young adults are put into contact with other cultures beyond their neighborhood.

I honestly don’t hold out much hope either. I think people vote with the ‘wind’ and don’t put any thought into it anymore. The 2 parties have mastered manipulating the lemmings.

]]> By: Mike Schinkel http://www.marketingtechblog.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/#comment-92590 Mike Schinkel Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:59:22 +0000 http://www.douglaskarr.com/2008/03/08/is-education-the-answer/#comment-92590 I have come to believe that the most valuable thing that one can get out of college is something didn't include. I think the best reason to go to college is to compete and collaborate with peers, And the better the school the better the peers as one strives to the level of their peers. Especially when those peers can from different experiences and/or different cultures than me. I got far more out of studying with other students and being involved in extracirricular activities with them than any other aspect of college. Unfortunately there is a large segment of our population (~42%?) that fears colleges, especially the better colleges, because they force students to question their own predjudices and preconceived notions. Far too many people would prefer to just believe what they want to believe and thus surround themselves with others who enable their myoptic attitudes as they restrict their world view. After all, the best way to believe what one wants to believe is to ensure that there is no evidence to the contrary. If we are going to move forward as a country, as a world, as a human race, people are going to have to get past this pathological need to stifle anything that contradicts their rigidly-held world view. Unfortunately, based on what I've seen happen over the past decade, I don't hold out much hope that most people will actually put aside their clinched ideologies for that to actually happen. I have come to believe that the most valuable thing that one can get out of college is something didn’t include. I think the best reason to go to college is to compete and collaborate with peers, And the better the school the better the peers as one strives to the level of their peers. Especially when those peers can from different experiences and/or different cultures than me.

I got far more out of studying with other students and being involved in extracirricular activities with them than any other aspect of college.

Unfortunately there is a large segment of our population (~42%?) that fears colleges, especially the better colleges, because they force students to question their own predjudices and preconceived notions. Far too many people would prefer to just believe what they want to believe and thus surround themselves with others who enable their myoptic attitudes as they restrict their world view. After all, the best way to believe what one wants to believe is to ensure that there is no evidence to the contrary.

If we are going to move forward as a country, as a world, as a human race, people are going to have to get past this pathological need to stifle anything that contradicts their rigidly-held world view. Unfortunately, based on what I’ve seen happen over the past decade, I don’t hold out much hope that most people will actually put aside their clinched ideologies for that to actually happen.

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